Attendance

Attendees:

• Patrick
• Andy
• Rolf
• Louise
• Viktor
• Kirsty
• Alan
• Alex
• Allan

Apologies:

Site Updates

ESRF:

• Working on the MX use cases
  • Deployed for some months, with ongoing testing
  • Contact friendly users next week
  • In a better position that ispyb
  • Room for improvement, possibility to add features beyond ispyb
  • Rolf: Our MX group does not have ispyb, plans to use it, would be nice to use the ESRF methods out of the box
    • Private meeting to discuss? Will need to contact the group
  • ispyb meeting at the end of November
  • Performance was a worry but actually is not bad
• Issues with downloading files of ~2GB via HTTP?
  • DLS have had people attempting ~TB, but expect these to fail
  • Rolf has had issues, but it was the clientside network (i.e. failed at home, succeeded at office)
    • Alex also has these difficulties from home
  • ESRF IT thinks it could be IDS config - could be a limit?
  • Louise to test on an ISIS file as that's 1 level storage
  • ESRF have GLOBUS, but majority of open data is not visible on GLOBUS via file permissions so is not suitable

HZB:

• ICAT still offline, unknown when it will come up
• Internal Gitlab is back online
• Lots of upcoming project meetings
• ICAT components pending release will probably not be until November
  • DLS using ICAT6 but are and can continue to use SNAPSHOTs

ALBA:

No attendees

Sirius:

• Tried data ingest
• Sample tracking meeting: perhaps try another week
  • Want ESRF to participate but Alex isn't available, clashes with ICALEPCS
  • Going to send another poll

ISIS:

No news

DLS:

Still concerns about performance in the DB from Payara6 change

• Request duplication fix in DG
• Update Oracle drivers to auto

Component Updates

icat.server

ids.server

authn.oidc & icat.oaipmh

DataGateway

icat-doi-api

DataHub

ICALEPCS Paper

No contact from ALBA, SESAME - will have to remove them from authorship if they can't be reached

Deadline Monday evening?

Architecture:

• Need to address comments from Rolf: Patrick
• Need to update final diagram: Patrick
• Check for missing citatons: Patrick

Frontends:

• DataGateway content needed: Louise
• DataHub content needed: Alex

Extensions/APIs:

• datagateway/common search api - add reference to this section (non accademic is fine, we can use the webpage): Viktor
• Python icat: Rolf
• ICAT+: Alex?
• ICAT OAIPMH: Rolf
• Sample tracking: Alex

Science use cases:

• Cryo-EM needs content: Alex
• MX needs content (50-100 parameters should be focus of use case): Alex

Sites:

• ISIS needs content: Louise
• ESRF needs figures: Andy
• HZB needs content: Rolf
• ALBA: ?
• SESAME: ?
• SIRIUS: Allan

Collaboration:

• indico site from previous workshop: ROlf

Next steps:

• Expand on containerisation: Rolf?

Conclusion

• Needs expanding

AOB

E-logbooks meeting

• Meeting went well, but need to define next steps soon
• General idea is that the e-logbook will be treated as another ICAT component (in time)
• MongDB has a problematic license... Rolf suspects the e-logbook use case is not compliant with the license
  • Derived from GPL, but if you derive from MongoDB you have to use their license
  • CoachDB as an alternative
  • Consensus seems to be that this is not apply to us as we will not be offering MongoDB functionality, we are just using it as a DB which is allowed
• Test of model federation in DataGateway:
  • Could do this
  • Not planning on anytime soon
  • Would be nice to know if different versions of React can work together in practice

Other meetings

Next Collaboration Meeting

Clashes with International Data Week